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#1

I have played a game (BOT account) against Lishogi’s Engine AI level 8, and an extremely long time control (180|180). Here’s the game...

lishogi.org/pyMJbUSDhFwB

To my surprise, my Bot won the game inspite of using Fairy Stockfish (an engine weaker than YaneuraOu) and without NNUE (Classical Eval). So I assume that either YaneuraOu blundered, or Fairy Stockfish Classical Eval can manage to reach such a strong engine (which is using Suisho NNUE evaluation) after a very long time.

I have created a study on this. In case you have any tips on how I could improve it do share lishogi.org/study/2EVxtOY9

Thanks!

#2

Wait, so can the owner of bots play games, or are the bots programmed to do that !

#4

The Bot is programmed to play moves, which is why a separate title has been given.

#5

Are bot makers allowed to control the strength of the bot? LIke for example, random mover bots have low strength and other bots like you have high ratings and higher strength.

#7

@YoBot_v2 #1

Yeah! You see! Fairy-Stockfish is better than YaneuraOu! (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞(☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞(☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞

Then why Lishogi uses YaneuraOu?? D:

Nice captcha from my game! :O

#9

#7 Well, YaneuraOu is approximately 400+ ELO stronger that Fairy Stockfish with NNUE and without NNUE Fairy Stockfish is 1000+ ELO weaker than YaneuraOu, and my bot is using Fairy Stockfish without NNUE, so my bot is definitely much weaker than YaneuraOu. The only reasons my bot won that game is because:
(1) The are certain positions (very few) that Fairy Stockfish (without NNUE) manages to handle better than YaneuraOu and one of those positions would have been in the game.
(2) Fairy Stockfish (without NNUE) can maybe in some situations managed to get closer to YaneuraOu’s strength after a long time (this game was a 180|180 game).
(3) There might have been an error with shoginet ( github.com/WandererXII/shoginet ), which is used by lishogi to play against engine, during this particular game (Though this is definitely the most unlikely thing to happen and I don’t think this is the case).

#8 Yup, looks like more games are being played in lishogi :)

#10

@YoBot_v2 #9
Then why not play more games to see which is better Fairy-Stockfish or your so called YaneuraOu 🥴

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