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Duck opening is characterised by 2 things - floating rook on 4th file and peeping bishop on the side. Duck strategy ultimately aims to 1) force exchange of major pieces or 2) break open sides1P-262P-84Typical double static rook game3P-254P-85If sente G-78 or P-76, would progress as double wing attack/side pawn picker or standard double static rook game5R-265.P-96First instance of sente revealing duck strategy with peeping bishop6.G-32G-32 natural development6.P-86??blunder as it transits to scenario in double wing attack where sente has faster attack7.Px868.Rx869.P-2410.Px2411.P*237.B-97The peeping bishop variation is faster than floating rook variation8.S-629.P-2410.Px2411.Rx2412.P*2313.R-2614.K-4115.S-6816.S-4216.P-3417.S-4818.G-5219.G-7920.P-3421.G-3922.P-9423.K-5824.R-84This is the general position which duck strategy would arrive with both rook/bishop variants25.P-8626.Px8627.Rx8628.P*85Exchange of major pieces not good for white29.R-3630.S-3331.R-7632.P-5433.B-7534.R-8235.P-9536.Px9537.P*9338.Lx9339.Bx93+40.Nx9341.P*9442.R-8343.Lx9544.P*9245.Px93+46.Px9347.R-966G-327P-968P-949B-9710S-6211P-1612P-1413K-5814K-4115S-4816G-5217S-6818S-4219G-7920R-8421G-3922P-34!Standard position for Duck strategy
This pawn push is critical for defending against duck strategy and must happen before opponent exchanges rook file pawn
23P-2424Px2425Rx2426N-33don't drop P*23 - too passive and allows black R26 and threatens 4th file27R-2628P-35Further protects knight's head and opens up own rook file29P-8630Px8631Rx8632P*85Don't exchange major pieces33R-2634P*25Rook doesn't have many effective locations - if black brings R-82, then could be a small win for white due to loss of black's momentum35R-7636R-2437P*27Black has to respond38R-8438.P-7439B-7540R-82Edge attack along 9th file still valid idea41P-3641.P-9542.Px9543.P*9344.Lx9345.Bx93+46.Nx9347.Lx9542P-44making way for silver to defend knight + vanguard position for knight to escape43Px3544S-4345R-3646G-23Congested but black still has edge attack ideas47P-9548Px9549P*9350Lx9351Bx93+52Nx9353Lx95
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  1. DavyJonesbtw hi jeretavius
  2. DavyJonesfeel free to comment
  3. DavyJonesi've enabled chat for all
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  5. jienjienNice study!
  6. syncr0Can we call the anti-duck the shotgun XD jk
  7. syncr0this study looks awesome tho
  8. jienjienShotgun xD
  9. jienjienor hunting season? :p
  10. syncr0Hunting season system
  11. DavyJoneslol
  12. DavyJoneshaha
  13. DavyJonesso many people on 81 dojo used duck and demon slayer against me
  14. DavyJonesso
  15. DavyJonesthis is me plotting my revenge
  16. DavyJonesi still don't really have a straightforward 1-move answer to duck strategy
  17. jienjienlol really
  18. jienjienwhat rating are they? don't go playing 1-3dans when you're like 8kyu or something
  19. DavyJonesehhh mostly practice games with 7-9 kyu
  20. DavyJonesand the occassional 1 dan
  21. DavyJonesidk if it's my time zone or smth
  22. DavyJonessometimes quite hard for me to find rated games with similar ratings
  23. syncr0from what I heard playing central house or double duck is one option
  24. syncr0the drops are too deadly to defend with anything different
  25. DavyJonesImma defo gonna look into that
  26. DavyJonesSo far I think I can say with bit more confidence that
  27. DavyJonesThe gote duck doesn’t work that well, and if they choose to float rook before peeping bishop it can be dragged into slow game
  28. DavyJonesBut there is joseki for gote’s version of duck and I haven’t looked into that yet
  29. Jeretaviusoh shoot I didn't realize I was watching a study get made lol. I'm new to Shogi so I don't know much what's going on but im trying to learn
  30. jienjienHeyo Jeretavius i would recommend learning basic castles lishogi.org/study/O591ZfdK and
  31. jienjiensome shogi tactics lishogi.org/study/cgqKMj1v
  32. JeretaviusThank you I'll read up on these. I'm not used to the kanji pieces so it's a little difficult and slow for me to read and follow videos or
  33. Jeretaviuspictures outside of lishogi
  34. potnoodlechefHey Davy! Could you include a refutation to central rook?
  35. potnoodlechefhad a game today where my 5-6 pawn became very weak from an incoming silver + rook on 5,2. Would be nice to know how to properly defend it!
  36. potnoodlechef(also I'll come back to the study once someone defeats me with the duck, haven't faced it yet xD)
  37. DavyJoneslol i just got central rook rushed today
  38. DavyJonesso gonna study it
  39. will1v1_ttvnice
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