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2v2 endgames: Queen vs Ox4

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  1. WassimBerbarI think this is a draw, the ox controls too many squares
  2. dax00Oh yeah I should change that
  3. dax00I think sente's king needs to get to the ox's side, for any chance
  4. WassimBerbarif sente's king gets closer, it gets checked on the diagonals
  5. WassimBerbarI don't know how sente could stop the checks
  6. dax00behind Gote's King maybe
  7. dax00this is tough
  8. WassimBerbarvery
  9. WassimBerbargote holds
  10. dax00feels like there could be a tricky way to do this
  11. WassimBerbarbishop and queen is a win, maybe there's a theoretical chance for sente to win
  12. WassimBerbarI think you need as gote to stay in the ox's blindspots
  13. WassimBerbarin one of the red squares
  14. WassimBerbarI think queen a2 is winning
  15. WassimBerbarafter further thoughts, gote draws
  16. dax00yeah, if you can't win from that position, i think it's a draw
  17. WassimBerbarthe ox doesn't allow the king to enter
  18. dax00can't see any progress
  19. dax00Ok, what do you want to test out next?
  20. WassimBerbaryes
  21. dax00Queen could probably chase a whale to the weak half of the board though
  22. WassimBerbarwith whale and white horse the win is possible
  23. dax00i think this has proved as much
  24. WassimBerbarwhat other piece is interesting to try?
  25. dax00queen vs rook is a win, although i imagine very hard
  26. WassimBerbarin chess, it's a hard win
  27. WassimBerbarI had queen vs rook once, the guy blundered a fork so it didn't really count lol
  28. dax00Magnus drew against Nepo a couple days ago with the rook
  29. WassimBerbarsome people don't know how to win knight and bishop vs lone king
  30. dax00Rook vs gold next?
  31. WassimBerbaryes
  32. WassimBerbarcongrats if you manage to promote a pawn and retreat it like that lol
  33. dax00yeah, 5 moves back
  34. WassimBerbaranyways the pawn is so far away so we just need to separate them
  35. WassimBerbarthis is a win
  36. WassimBerbarthere are no 50-move rule?
  37. dax00nope
  38. WassimBerbarexcellent
  39. dax00there's an unofficial draw rule similar
  40. WassimBerbarit's about material?
  41. dax00199 moves, no promotions, no captures
  42. dax00It's only useful if you forbid any attacking repetitions at all
  43. WassimBerbarso we have all the time we need
  44. dax00you think this is a win still?
  45. WassimBerbarI don't think, I'm sure now
  46. WassimBerbarthe pawn's weakness is the back
  47. WassimBerbarthe king has to go back around to get the win
  48. WassimBerbarI got to go now
  49. WassimBerbargood night
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