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Game study: jienjien - momizi3

Start2022/06/28 21:56:22
End2022/06/28 22:30:58
Sitehttps://lishogi.org/SLI80PS3
EventCasual Classical game
Time control15分+60秒
Sentejienjien
Gotemomizi
Chat room
  1. jienjienDo you want to talk over voice chat?
  2. jienjienthis was slightly better like this
  3. momiziI am from a mobile device
  4. jienjienit's ok :D
  5. jienjienthis is your castle, you would not want to move it unless it is necessary
  6. jienjienuse your other silver in the attack
  7. momiziwait wait
  8. momiziI have to scroll down and back to see the chat box
  9. momiziwhere is my castle
  10. momiziah
  11. momizired circles
  12. momizi?
  13. jienjienred circles yes
  14. momiziis it a good castle?
  15. jienjiencould be better if the gold was on 4b (42)
  16. momizihuh!
  17. momizinoted
  18. jienjiennow it's all protected
  19. jienjienthat gold was hanging previously
  20. jienjienlet's move on :D
  21. momiziI see, I was afraid to leave the backrank with no pieces for reason
  22. jienjienan
  23. momizifor some
  24. jienjienthat you use your rook for defence, like this
  25. momiziget it!
  26. jienjienideally you want your silver here too
  27. jienjienso that it protects your knight'
  28. jienjienknight's head
  29. momiziright!
  30. jienjienThis drop wasn't really good
  31. jienjienyou should develop your other pieces , like your attacking silver
  32. momiziI regretted it soon after indeed
  33. momizithinking that it would be nicer to have the bishop in hand
  34. jienjienYes
  35. jienjienit's used for forks or trying to break into enemy camp
  36. jienjienthis is your goal of a successful attack
  37. jienjienCan you see it
  38. jienjienWhen the silver reaches the 5th rank, it's extremely strong with the rook
  39. momiziyes, looks like a reasonable plan
  40. jienjienThis is why the proverb says, attack with rook, bishop, silver and pawn
  41. jienjienmaybe something like this
  42. jienjienThis is why the gold here was bad, haha
  43. momiziyes now the weakness is exploited
  44. jienjienkeep your defense generals defended!
  45. jienjienit helps in delaying the attack, now my dragon is much closer to your king
  46. jienjiencompared to your dragon
  47. momizithat’s some long term consequences
  48. jienjieni'll be moving on soon
  49. jienjienYeah what you do in the opening have echoes into the middlegame and endgame
  50. jienjienso playing optimal moves in the opening is somewhat important, but that's just 1/3 of the game
  51. momiziindeed!
  52. jienjienif you have a strong endgame, you can also win by calculation and tactics
  53. momiziis it some established opening that you are showing right now?
  54. jienjienNah i won't go into specifics of openings
  55. jienjienyou're playing a decent opening here but just not optimal :p
  56. momiziokay!
  57. jienjienThis was good.. i didnt read this :p
  58. momizisomehow this extra bishop didn’t help me at all
  59. jienjienHere i thought this was good
  60. jienjieni thought you could use this bishop here
  61. momizioh
  62. momiziI missed this knight drop completely
  63. jienjienthis is why i said "i'm losing to you tactically" but i was fortunate that you didn't play this
  64. momiziI considered only a drop in 5-5
  65. momizithen after pawn takes
  66. momiziI can make a fork with the bishop’s drop
  67. jienjienmm
  68. jienjienactually bishops and rooks are worth 2 generals
  69. jienjienor even 1 general and 1 minor piece
  70. jienjienYou would be winning here
  71. momiziniiice
  72. jienjienyea it's strong
  73. jienjienyou missed a very good tactic
  74. jienjienmaybe like this
  75. momiziI see
  76. jienjiensomething like this
  77. jienjienin shogi you'll always need to free your pieces and promote it in the enemy camp
  78. jienjienso how to do that? By accepting bishop and rook trades and drop it on the other side, or just by brute force breaking in
  79. momiziI was too scared for my bishops to consider exchanging it to weaken the King
  80. jienjienYea
  81. jienjienmaterial is less important in the endgame
  82. jienjienusually we trade them away for the generals
  83. jienjienthen we checkmate like how i did by dropping them to your king
  84. momiziis it an endgame already?
  85. jienjieni would say this is almost middlegame endgame
  86. jienjienendgame is where the rook or bishop is promoted and attacking the kind
  87. jienjienking*
  88. momiziaha!
  89. jienjienlike here it's already endgame
  90. jienjiensee how i've traded all my pieces to weaken the defense
  91. jienjienOnce you've learnt how to play.. you are a terrifying player hahah
  92. jienjienThere's no force checkmate here i think
  93. momiziokay!
  94. jienjienSee how if you're keeping the king in check, the king runs
  95. jienjienthis is where another proverb comes in, to check is to chase
  96. jienjiensurround the king instead
  97. jienjienoh right
  98. jienjienlol
  99. jienjienVery nice :D
  100. momiziso building mating nets > trying to make a forced checkmate?
  101. jienjienYes!
  102. jienjienwait
  103. jienjienno
  104. jienjienforced checkmate > building net > checks
  105. jienjieni didn't read it properly, sorry
  106. momiziby the force I mean checking until it’s the checkmate
  107. momiziforced
  108. jienjieni said that building nets is better than to just randonmly checking the king and hoping something happens
  109. momiziah
  110. jienjienforce checkmate yes it's checking until forced, this is ok if you read out the mate
  111. jienjienotherwise a short brinkmate is better than a long checkmate
  112. jienjienif your king is safe, go for the brinkmate if you can't read the long forced sequence. there's mate in 13+ that you can't read out in 60s ha
  113. jienjienmaybe for me but possible for you
  114. jienjiensome players can sniff out checkmate
  115. momiziright
  116. jienjienlike Hmmmmmm there's checkmate here
  117. jienjiengggggg
  118. jienjieni enjoyed the game :)
  119. jienjienThank you for playing
  120. momiziit’s a high level pattern recognition I guess
  121. momizime too, thank you for the lesson!
  122. jienjienin sHogi we do post game analysis every time
  123. momizia lot of valuable advices
  124. jienjienthat's how we improve
  125. momizithat’s awesome!
  126. jienjienyou should play on 81dojo, that's where we hold our tournaments
  127. jienjienbut beware that you can make illegal moves
  128. momiziI have
  129. jienjienoh!
  130. momizimmmm
  131. jienjiennice
  132. momizifuMomizi
  133. momizithere
  134. jienjien:D
  135. jienjienok
  136. momiziwith 0 games
  137. jienjienSee you in the discord!
  138. momizisee ya!
  139. jienjienhave a nice day
  140. momiziyou too, thank you again!
  141. jienjienno problem
  142. jienjienoh no it's mate :p
  143. jienjiensorry
  144. jienjienhahah
  145. momiziit’s a nice pattern with the rook sac
  146. momizinoted also
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