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開始日時：2021/05/14 08:08:17 終了日時：2021/05/14 08:26:53 棋戦：Rated Rapid game 場所：https://lishogi.org/tizItEIH 持ち時間：5分+30秒 手合割：平手 先手：Illya 後手：jienjien 手数----指手---------消費時間-- 1 ２六歩(27) 2 ３四歩(33) 3 ７六歩(77) 4 ４四歩(43) 5 ４八銀(39) 6 ３二銀(31) 7 ２五歩(26) 8 ３三角(22) 9 ６八玉(59) 10 ４三銀(32) 11 ５六歩(57) 12 ４二飛(82) 13 ７八玉(68) 14 ９四歩(93) 15 ９六歩(97) 16 ７二銀(71) 17 ５八金(49) 18 ５二金(41) 19 ５七銀(48) 20 ６二玉(51) 21 ３六歩(37) 22 ７一玉(62) 23 ８六歩(87) 24 ６四歩(63) 25 ８七玉(78) 26 ７四歩(73) 27 ７八銀(79) 28 １四歩(13) 29 １六歩(17) 30 １二香(11) 31 ４六銀(57) 32 ４五歩(44) 33 ５五銀(46) 34 ６三金(52) 35 ６六銀(55) 36 ５四銀(43) 37 ５五歩(56) 38 ６五銀(54) 39 ５七銀(66) 40 ５四歩(53) 41 ６六歩(67) 42 ５五角(33) 43 １八飛(28) 44 ４六歩(45) 45 同　歩(47) 46 同　角(55) 47 ６五歩(66) 48 ５七角成(46) 49 同　金(58) 50 ６五歩(64) 51 ６四歩打 52 同　金(63) 53 ５三角打 54 ６二飛(42) 55 同　角成(53) 56 同　金(61) 57 ４一飛打 58 ６一金(62) 59 ４四角(88) 60 ６二銀打 61 ５三銀打 62 同　銀(62) 63 同　角成(44) 64 ６二銀打 65 ６四馬(53) 66 ７三銀(72) 67 ５四馬(64) 68 ６三角打 69 同　馬(54) 70 同　銀(62) 71 ４三角打 72 ５二歩打 73 ６四歩打 74 同　銀(73) 75 ８二金打 76 ６二玉(71) 77 ８三金(82) 78 ５三玉(62) 79 ２一角成(43) 80 ６二玉(53) 81 ４八飛(18) 82 ５三銀(64) 83 ５四桂打 84 同　銀(53) 85 ６一飛成(41) 86 ５三玉(62) 87 ３一馬(21) 88 投了
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  1. Illya79 S'44 was cool but I didn't see mate after K62
  2. IllyaMove 40 you could have just played it cool maybe, it's uncomfortable but I need to move my R before P66, otherwise Bx55 and S54 escapes
  3. jienjienah yea
  4. jienjienplus i never read further here so it's my mistake
  5. jienjienengine actually suggests S-54 immediately hahah
  6. Illyawhat troll
  7. jienjienhahah
  8. Illyathen S56 probably
  9. jienjienyup
  10. jienjienthen i had to play a super passive game
  11. Illyait's a decent 4th file rook, I don't really have any immediate kills
  12. IllyaYou're supposed to be passive but ready to strike
  13. Illya32 P45 felt premature
  14. IllyaBx33+ Nx S55 but I didn't like giving you a bishop drop... but then again my king is quite safe
  15. jienjienI don't really see the point of playing P54 ever
  16. jienjienbut it's joseki
  17. IllyaCentral space
  18. IllyaAlso the potential of P55 central counterattacks
  19. jienjienguess i need to start trying it out
  20. IllyaYou have to watch the diagonals it opens, but it can be a good move
  21. jienjienbecause if i play P54, it opens up the rook yea
  22. jienjienplus my silver is awkward to advance most of the timne
  23. IllyaI think you can P54 especially if the bishops are not in danger of being traded
  24. jienjieni feel if my silver is at S54 it gives more play
  25. IllyaIt does weaken the bishop head so needs some care
  26. jienjienyeah it depends on the game
  27. IllyaBut everything is entirely dependent on the situation
  28. jienjienlets say bougin , then i wont do it
  29. IllyaThe way to deal with bougin is just defend it until there's nothing left
  30. Illyathen they have an offside silver on 25
  31. Illyaor something
  32. jienjienmhm
  33. jienjienwhy didn't you push P35 first before S46?
  34. jienjienat move 31
  35. IllyaBecause you had S34
  36. jienjienhaha i see
  37. Illya31. P35 Px S46 and now S34 and I have nothing much
  38. IllyaR38 was an option
  39. jienjienbut isn't that the usual move
  40. IllyaI figured 31 S46 because no way you would push P45
  41. Illyathen you pushed it
  42. jienjienlmao
  43. IllyaThe bishop trade is usually not good for you here
  44. Illyaespecially since I had P24 after
  45. jienjienit's always tricky on when to open it
  46. IllyaBut for whatever reason I decided my silver needed some exercise
  47. jienjiencan never get good with the timing xD
  48. IllyaSometimes it shouldn't be played at all maybe
  49. jienjienprobably P54, then what would you do
  50. jienjienP35?
  51. IllyaHm 32. P54 maybe P35 now
  52. jienjieni see
  53. IllyaR32 in response I guess
  54. jienjienyes that's the line
  55. IllyaThen there is Px34 Sx R38 P45
  56. IllyaI think it might still be slightly better for me since I have mino not boat, but it should be playable
  57. jienjienyes its strong
  58. jienjienif it's boat maybe i have a change
  59. jienjienchance*
  60. jienjienplus my castle is meh xD
  61. IllyaYou'd want one more move to K82 and avoid the diagonal checks
  62. IllyaBut I think you just have to float around and wait for me to attack badly
  63. jienjienprobably
  64. Illya4th-file rook I find very annoying when I use it, because against strong players I need to calculate a lot to counterattack
  65. jienjieni'm thinking of transcribing the joseki into a study
  66. IllyaGood way to learn :thumbsup:
  67. IllyaAlthough hatu's lectures were waaaay over my head
  68. jienjienhaha
  69. jienjienit does seem a bit too much
  70. IllyaIt does show how hard shikenbisha has to struggle to come up with ideas for equality
  71. IllyaAlready few times I've played what I thought was joseki and still ended up hating the result
  72. jienjienlots of counterintuitive moves
  73. jienjienfirst time i learnt that i need to move the rook to 3rd file, i was like whaaat
  74. jienjienwhat's the point
  75. jienjienhahah
  76. Illyamight as well play sankenbisha
  77. jienjientrue
  78. Illyawell the point is [some move order where you need G32 to defend]
  79. jienjienbut then sankenbisha is also awkward as F
  80. IllyaI say screw joseki
  81. jienjienye, i get the reason for the moves
  82. jienjiendo you think right hand 4th file is viable for everything
  83. IllyaI don't play it :O
  84. IllyaMaybe I should try
  85. jienjienaw
  86. jienjienit's a fun opening
  87. IllyaProbably it's good versus any sort of furi
  88. IllyaNot too sure about vs ibisha
  89. jienjienwhen your attack works against yagura and you see it crumbles
  90. IllyaYagura is another thing I can't play
  91. jienjienit's specifically a yagura destroyer
  92. IllyaI usually end up getting destroyed before playing the yagura then start trying to salvage the position
  93. jienjienbecause you use N25/85 to attack the head silver of yagura while your bishop diag attacks the 11/99 line
  94. IllyaMaybe migishiken is viable vs everything, only one way to find out :P
  95. jienjiennot sure what castle do you use vs ibisha tho
  96. jienjienit uses elmo against furi
  97. IllyaWhen I do ai-ibisha I tend to go for either yokofudori or aigakari, or twisting rook
  98. Illyaso I end up not really castling
  99. Illyaor doing mino in the latter case
  100. jienjienthat's another cursed thing , ai-ibisha
  101. jienjieni tried to play it but can't brain the attacks xD
  102. Illyaactually I prefer ai-ibisha and ai-furibisha
  103. IllyaI don't like opposition games
  104. jienjienit's more equal i guess
  105. jienjienok
  106. jienjienimma hop off ;D
  107. Illyao7
  108. jienjienthanks for the game illyaaa
  109. Illyathanks jien!
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